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I have noticed that TMF641 have a field called ServiceOrderErrorMessage in ServiceOrder. The ServiceOrderErrorMessage contains list of serviceOrderItem that correspond to this error. This can help us in case of bulk ordering where only a few can be successful ( Partial Success Scenario).

I am exploring the possibility of using TMF622 for a similar scenario (Bulk ordering). I would like to know if this pattern will be introduced in TMF622. Kindly provide me the details, If any
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Lakshmi Murali
Torry Harris Integration Solutions
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Hello Lakshmi

We have the plan to align next 622 (productOrder)  future release with 641 pattern. By doing this, it will add the capability to list errorMessage, orderMilestone & OrderJeopard from productOrder and link to item. 

Hope it helps

Ludovic

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Ludovic Robert
Orange
My answer are my own & don't represent necessarily my company or the TMF
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Hi,

We've been discussing this recently at BT and we have use cases where complex products would require both messages and milestones at the order item level - for example an Ethernet circuit with 2 delivery points which can progress as separate projects - can this be considered to be added to the model?

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Steve Ranford-Bragg
BT Group plc
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Original Message:
Sent: Jun 03, 2021 07:04
From: Ludovic Robert
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hello Lakshmi

We have the plan to align next 622 (productOrder)  future release with 641 pattern. By doing this, it will add the capability to list errorMessage, orderMilestone & OrderJeopard from productOrder and link to item.

Hope it helps

Ludovic

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Ludovic Robert
Orange
My answer are my own & don't represent necessarily my company or the TMF
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Hello Steve

In fact we will add 3 distinct classes to manage separately errorMessage, orderMilestone & OrderJeopardy. The link will be Order to these, but you will have also a link to item(s)....so it will be possible to specify that a given error message (or jeopardy, or milestone) is specific to an order item. So for me your requirement should be covered.

You can look on TMF641 release 4.1 to have an idea of the pattern.

Hope it helps

Ludovic

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Ludovic Robert
Orange
My answer are my own & don't represent necessarily my company or the TMF
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Original Message:
Sent: Jun 04, 2021 13:35
From: Steve Ranford-Bragg
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hi,

We've been discussing this recently at BT and we have use cases where complex products would require both messages and milestones at the order item level - for example an Ethernet circuit with 2 delivery points which can progress as separate projects - can this be considered to be added to the model?

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Steve Ranford-Bragg
BT Group plc
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Original Message:
Sent: Jun 03, 2021 07:04
From: Ludovic Robert
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hello Lakshmi

We have the plan to align next 622 (productOrder)  future release with 641 pattern. By doing this, it will add the capability to list errorMessage, orderMilestone & OrderJeopard from productOrder and link to item.

Hope it helps

Ludovic

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Ludovic Robert
Orange
My answer are my own & don't represent necessarily my company or the TMF

Hi Ludovic,

Apologies yes, I missed the reference to the order item id in the document - thanks, that helped clear that up :-)


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Steve Ranford-Bragg
BT Group plc
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Original Message:
Sent: Jun 04, 2021 15:26
From: Ludovic Robert
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hello Steve

In fact we will add 3 distinct classes to manage separately errorMessage, orderMilestone & OrderJeopardy. The link will be Order to these, but you will have also a link to item(s)....so it will be possible to specify that a given error message (or jeopardy, or milestone) is specific to an order item. So for me your requirement should be covered.

You can look on TMF641 release 4.1 to have an idea of the pattern.

Hope it helps

Ludovic

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Ludovic Robert
Orange
My answer are my own & don't represent necessarily my company or the TMF
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Original Message:
Sent: Jun 04, 2021 13:35
From: Steve Ranford-Bragg
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hi,

We've been discussing this recently at BT and we have use cases where complex products would require both messages and milestones at the order item level - for example an Ethernet circuit with 2 delivery points which can progress as separate projects - can this be considered to be added to the model?

------------------------------
Steve Ranford-Bragg
BT Group plc


Original Message:
Sent: Jun 03, 2021 07:04
From: Ludovic Robert
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hello Lakshmi

We have the plan to align next 622 (productOrder)  future release with 641 pattern. By doing this, it will add the capability to list errorMessage, orderMilestone & OrderJeopard from productOrder and link to item.

Hope it helps

Ludovic

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Ludovic Robert
Orange
My answer are my own & don't represent necessarily my company or the TMF

Hi Ludovic,

Is the same alignment planned for TMF652 (Resource Order Management API)? This would be useful for use case 011 in IG1228. If there is an existing JIRA entry for it, I would be grateful if you could share it.

Best regards,

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Roland Leners
alvatross by SATEC
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Original Message:
Sent: Jun 04, 2021 15:26
From: Ludovic Robert
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hello Steve

In fact we will add 3 distinct classes to manage separately errorMessage, orderMilestone & OrderJeopardy. The link will be Order to these, but you will have also a link to item(s)....so it will be possible to specify that a given error message (or jeopardy, or milestone) is specific to an order item. So for me your requirement should be covered.

You can look on TMF641 release 4.1 to have an idea of the pattern.

Hope it helps

Ludovic

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Ludovic Robert
Orange
My answer are my own & don't represent necessarily my company or the TMF
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Original Message:
Sent: Jun 04, 2021 13:35
From: Steve Ranford-Bragg
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hi,

We've been discussing this recently at BT and we have use cases where complex products would require both messages and milestones at the order item level - for example an Ethernet circuit with 2 delivery points which can progress as separate projects - can this be considered to be added to the model?

------------------------------
Steve Ranford-Bragg
BT Group plc


Original Message:
Sent: Jun 03, 2021 07:04
From: Ludovic Robert
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hello Lakshmi

We have the plan to align next 622 (productOrder)  future release with 641 pattern. By doing this, it will add the capability to list errorMessage, orderMilestone & OrderJeopard from productOrder and link to item.

Hope it helps

Ludovic

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Ludovic Robert
Orange
My answer are my own & don't represent necessarily my company or the TMF

Hi Roland
Yes we should align. I create a Jira to track this --> [AP-4078] Improve resourceorder with jeopardy, errorMessage and milestone - TM Forum JIRA

Thanks
Ludovic

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Ludovic Robert
Orange
My answer are my own & don't represent necessarily my company or the TMF
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Original Message:
Sent: Aug 23, 2022 11:13
From: Roland Leners
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hi Ludovic,

Is the same alignment planned for TMF652 (Resource Order Management API)? This would be useful for use case 011 in IG1228. If there is an existing JIRA entry for it, I would be grateful if you could share it.

Best regards,

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Roland Leners
alvatross by SATEC
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Original Message:
Sent: Jun 04, 2021 15:26
From: Ludovic Robert
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hello Steve

In fact we will add 3 distinct classes to manage separately errorMessage, orderMilestone & OrderJeopardy. The link will be Order to these, but you will have also a link to item(s)....so it will be possible to specify that a given error message (or jeopardy, or milestone) is specific to an order item. So for me your requirement should be covered.

You can look on TMF641 release 4.1 to have an idea of the pattern.

Hope it helps

Ludovic

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Ludovic Robert
Orange
My answer are my own & don't represent necessarily my company or the TMF


Original Message:
Sent: Jun 04, 2021 13:35
From: Steve Ranford-Bragg
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hi,

We've been discussing this recently at BT and we have use cases where complex products would require both messages and milestones at the order item level - for example an Ethernet circuit with 2 delivery points which can progress as separate projects - can this be considered to be added to the model?

------------------------------
Steve Ranford-Bragg
BT Group plc


Original Message:
Sent: Jun 03, 2021 07:04
From: Ludovic Robert
Subject: TMF622 - Adding list of errors to ProductOrder

Hello Lakshmi

We have the plan to align next 622 (productOrder)  future release with 641 pattern. By doing this, it will add the capability to list errorMessage, orderMilestone & OrderJeopard from productOrder and link to item.

Hope it helps

Ludovic

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Ludovic Robert
Orange
My answer are my own & don't represent necessarily my company or the TMF