Hi all,
according to my understanding:
In TMF620 the place attribute is polymorphic – a reference (PlaceRef) may point to different types of "Place": TMF673 Geographic Address, TMF675 Geographic Location, and TMF674 Geographic Site, and even their combination, as it is an array.
Meaning: "Place defines the places where the products are sold or delivered."
1) TMF673 – Geographic Address
API versions differ significantly:
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v4 – the address requires mandatory attributes including street and street number, so it effectively represents a specific point, not a broader area.
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v5 – the requirement for street-level detail seems to be removed; an address can be provided only at the level of city, locality, country, etc.
- Another change: in v5 GeographicAddress no longer has the
name attribute (the so-called friendly name). Building or sub-location names are expressed only in the sub-address (GeographicSubAddress.buildingName, GeographicSubAddress.name).
Usage for ProductOffering: if the offering applies to an area that can be expressed as an v5 address or a set of addresses, then a reference to GeographicAddress can be used.
2) TMF675 – Geographic Location
This API is designed to describe geographic areas, from v4 using GeoJSON (point, line, polygon, multipolygon).
It is suitable for cases where a ProductOffering is limited to a region that cannot be expressed by a single address.
The GeographicLocation entity has attributes such as geometry (GeoJSON) and also name, which makes it directly suitable to represent "named areas".
3) TMF674 – Geographic Site
Primarily intended to model provider or customer places such as a campus, data center, or branch, typically sites related to a technology, in my opinion.
It contains attributes like code, description, and relationships to address or geographic location – but does not have its own name field.
It could also be used more flexibly, for example to denote a sales region; categorization of sites is available using siteCategory.
Conclusion – how to handle name in a place reference
In TMF620, a ProductOffering uses PlaceRef to hold references. Each reference may contain a name.
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If the target entity (GeographicAddress v5 or GeographicSite) has no name of its own, then PlaceRef.name can be used as a business label – either entered by the user or generated by the product catalog from attributes of the referenced entity (e.g. city + buildingName, or site code + description).
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If the target entity does have a name (GeographicLocation), that value should normally be copied into PlaceRef.name. Using a different label could be confusing.
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Jiri Smekal
T-Mobile Czech & Slovak Telekom, a.s.
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Original Message:
Sent: Aug 13, 2025 12:13
From: Yigit Kilic
Subject: Can we use GeographicSite in TMF674 as place referred in productOffering.
Hi,
GeoSuite/Location Management model is a bit daunting but below is the best picture I managed to find on the subject.
So a "place" is an abstract base class - as it has an id, I can't call it a raw 'interface' - which is then extended/subclassed (polymorphically) to express a site, address or location. Then the referredType would express which API/data type that the placeId refers to(or gives the typeOf).

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Yigit Kilic
Solution Architect
Telenor Sverige
Original Message:
Sent: Aug 13, 2025 08:35
From: Matthieu Hattab
Subject: Can we use GeographicSite in TMF674 as place referred in productOffering.
Maybe you should provide a definition of "business label".
I would recommend you check the examples provided by the API OAS file or API user guide. I quickly found this example:
{ "place": [ { "id": "9979", "href": "https://mycsp.com:8080/tmfapi/geographicAddressManagement/v5/geographicAddress/9979", "name": "San Francisco Bay Area", "@referredType": "GeographicAddress", "@type": "PlaceRef" } ]}
Does "San Francisco Bay Area" fit your definition of "business label"? It's clearly not a street address!
you can use polymorphism (see TMF630 for details) to specialise the entity. A place could be both a continent and specific flat in a building.
- In product catalogue, Place means "where is the product offering sold". It would be a country or more granular like a list of post codes.
- In the product inventory, Place means "where is the product is used" it will always be an address, GPS coordinates etc.
PS: Place, location, geographic Address, site etc. TMF has created many geospatial entities (location, addresses, coordinates, sites) or spatial entities (rack positions, floor plans) in the SID and it can be confusing!
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Kind regards,
Matthieu Hattab
Digital Sales Domain Architect
Lyse Tele AS
Original Message:
Sent: Aug 12, 2025 22:23
From: Tina Thomas
Subject: Can we use GeographicSite in TMF674 as place referred in productOffering.
Hi,
I wanted to add place to productOffering in TMF 620. I just need the place to be a business label, and not an exact address or latitude/longtitudes.
Is it mandatory that i use GeographicAddress as place when aligned to TMF620?
Can I use GeographicSite in TMF 674 instead ?
Also, if using 674, should i implement GeographicSite in swagger as extension of a base schema Place (as in GeographicAddress - TMF673)? or directly create a new schema GeographicSite as per TMF674?
Thanks,
Tina
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Tina Thomas
Oracle Corporation
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